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  Be Honest in All Things - New video exposes a problem with honesty at Bethel/Construction

  by George One Time in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on tv.jw.org kenneth cook jr. discusses how important it is to be honest when applying for special assignemts.

  he mentions health and viewing pornography.

  those who viewed pornography during the last year should not apply.

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  Jehovah's Witnesses live and function on the edge of sanity. They inhabit a culture dedicated to fulfilling the dreams of the JW leadership.

  The leaders of the sect, even though they are not very bright individually, have evolved a way to organise their flock to encourage a mentality and life course which is at a long remove from normal human behaviour.

  To be a JW is to adopt a neurotic obsession with determining the boundaries of Watchtower doctrinal beliefs and be lumbered with a cognitive dissonance coming from the impulse to please the organisation and at the same time remaining guiltily aware of falling well short in performing those duties.

  The consequence of guilt is loss of self esteem leading to a total dependence on the organisation. A win-win for the cult, hard cheese for the sucker who swallows the doctrines.

  JWs might say this is a good thing to remain "pure and spotless" but critics will see there is a price to be paid for such a course especially as human nature does not do "perfection".

  The Witness religion keeps its followers guilty and downtrodden. Most mammals masturbate! It's a prelude to copulation and perpetuation of the species, it's normal. However, the JW org doesn't like sex! The reason is that they like total control and they can't actually control their members' sex life although by frequent mention of sex at the meetings, (which is highly inappropriate for young children by the way) JWs are reminded of the impossible standards set before them.

  The only positive that I can see is that the cult is moving so far away from common sense that humanity will not tolerate such oppressive, destructive, behaviour and plain ignorance much longer in a more enlightened and thoughtful world. Their language, mannerisms and propaganda on their TV presentations is truly nauseating --or am I a bit prejudiced?
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  Be Honest in All Things - New video exposes a problem with honesty at Bethel/Construction

  by George One Time in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  on tv.jw.org kenneth cook jr. discusses how important it is to be honest when applying for special assignemts.

  he mentions health and viewing pornography.

  those who viewed pornography during the last year should not apply.

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  @ zeb, since you are being technical; to be more literal, since people are not reading about prostitutes in Bethel they are looking at sex, therefore I think a better word would be 'pornoscopia'. But language doesn't always work like this.
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  ... the truth...

  by zeb in

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  doing a computer 'clean-out' came across this;.

  "we need to examine, not only what we personally believe, but also what is taught by any religious organization with which we may be associated.

  are its teachings in full harmony with god’s word, or are they based on the traditions of men?

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  " If we are lovers of the truth, there is nothing to fear from such an examination." (JW Eternal Life book)

  Notice how JW spiel speaks of "lovers of the truth". It's a catch phrase to implant in the entrapped reader's mind that there is such a concept out there as "The Truth" and that they are its privileged lovers. This animal does not in fact exist except on the electronic page of the Watchtower and in the mind of JWs.

  What is meant is a doctrinal myth which is the collective teachings of Jehovah's Witnesses as promoted by the leaders of the cult. By endless repetition over many years, it inculcates the idea that the JW org is the only holder of this specialised Truth concept-- and that those who believe this flimsy tale are flattered by being called the "lovers of The Truth". True and false, truth and falsehood exist but "The Truth" is propaganda.

  As for the idea of permitting an examination of other beliefs based on evidence and reason-- well that leads directly to an interrogation by the elders after the meeting, followed dis-fellowshipping!

  What blatant two-faced hypocrisy the JW org deals out.
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  Hype and Anti-Type Russia 13 Years Ago

  by scotoma in

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  worldly news services were calling things correctly with russia.. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/108767/pushing-russian-bear.

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  Scotoma said:

  There is a lot more that can be said about these prophecies.

  and you are absolutely right, it goes on endlessly.

  Instead, please show me any prophecy which was singular, unambiguous and came true.

  Allow for the fact that if enough prophecies are made then some would come true because it was one of many--and all the others on the same subject would have to fail.

  When you begin to use Biblical quotes to imply a divine hand behind them you are out on a limb. There is nothing miraculous in the myriad interpretations of Bible prophecies. Unless you put faith before logic, there is none which has evidence that the Bible is the word of an almighty god.

  There are much better ways to get a grasp on the real world but believing in or relying on prophecy is an utter waste of anyone's time.
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  Increase in Second Sealings for the Anointed?

  by Nevuela in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the other day i heard my anointed roommate on the phone, discussing something called the "second sealing".

  i heard her say that most anointed people only receive it shortly before death, if they receive it at all.

  she went on to say that she has been hearing about several other anointed people receiving theirs recently and not dying afterward.

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  Isn't one ceiling enough--who needs a second ceiling?

  Anyone who believes in a first sealing for the anointed has already lost the plot. Revelation was written by loonies targeting the gullible.
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  Now I am out, some reflections

  by menrov in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ok, i have been out (officially inactive) for over 5 years now.

  and from being frustrated during my awakening, to becoming a true bible student by analysing all doctrines and viewpoints, to being really happy to be out and at the same time, have developed a sense of disgust for the wt.

  my wife is still very much a pimi.

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  I agree with Crazyguy, well observed Menrov/Michel.

  In the main Jehovah's Witnesses are indeed a social club-- who really cares about doctrines? Doctrines are like an exclusive wallpaper decorating the clubhouse walls. It takes courage to resign from a social club which you know will ostracise you when you leave.

  Human nature dictates you do the things your friends do for the sake of solidarity with them, for some people even if it means defending unreasonable ideas. Friendship and identity are important factors for a stable mind. It just happens that the JW doctrines and culture are not only defective but actually deprive people of their natural right to choose their own satisfying path in life.

  By devoting their time and energy to the cult, JWs remain dependent on it, just like children are to their parents but permanently so-- and they lose out on personal development, ending up poor, disappointed and unfulfilled.

  The promise of paradise looks too good to miss! If only those, when they were contemplating joining the religion, could know how it really ends: it does not end in paradise.
  
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  What Do You Think Will Be The Next Big Change In The Watchtower?

  by minimus in

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  i think there will be a change in the 144000 belief.

  too many witnesses think they have a heavenly hope.

  maybe 1914 will be discarded too.. what is your watchtower prediction?

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  I like Vidiot's loss of charitable status, this would lead to the need for the org to start paying paying taxes. This will precipitate the sale of a ALL kh's and a fundamental shift to a new JW TV evangelism movement. Its unpopularity will eventually lead to closing down the whole organisation.

  In the meantime, loyalty to the org leading to being spared at Big A would then involve compulsory screen viewing. The present leadership would have to be dismissed in favour of actors who have been re-imaged in the celebrity mould. The contrived mechanical gestures and speaking style of the present presenters scream insincerity and total control (but perhaps JW zombification leads the flock to accepting it as natural?)

  They can't drop 1914 and 1919 since they have carefully fostered the myth that these dates represent divine prophecy being fulfilled by them--which is of course utter rubbish.
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  Thank you F&DS @ the Watchtower Corporation! Thank you! Thank you!

  by Solzhenitsyn in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this sundays 11/18 wt p.18 pp.3.

  / happy are those who serve "the happy god".

  "stressful events-such as when a loved one dies or is disfellowshipped...".

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  Gorby, I think you are right. There must be awake JWs in Bethel just as there are in the KHs.
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  Noah 'warning the people'

  by KW13 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  am i imagining this?at the kingdom hall we were told many times that noah warned the others about the coming flood and was ridiculed but actually there is no evidence of this in the bible!there is however evidence to the contrary.

  matthew 24:37-39.

  37 as it was in the days of noah, so it will be at the coming of the son of man.

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  Trouble is that Noah and the flood is just a folk tale. The fact that Jesus believed it just shows that he could not distinguish between stories and facts or more to the point that Jesus was a folk tale as well.

  You disagree?-- well where is your evidence for these guys? And don't say the Bible, the Bible is evidence for for folk tales not reality.
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  Getting Remarried after a spouses death & then they are resurrected after Armageddon ?

  by LOLS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi guys .

  i was wondering about the above , if a jw is allowed to remarry if a spouse has died, then what happens when they are resurrected at armageddon, do u land up with two wives/husbands ,,,,,,, makes no sense to me & can the jw's be so dumb not to think about this or have i got it wrong ?

  and i will not be asking my uber jw husband , don't have the energy.. thanks.

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  I can't see free love on any future JW agenda which would be one way round such problems. But it does good to think about the contradictions when thinking forward to what might happen in fairyland because some may see how foolish it all is.